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Clan => Applications => Accepted Applications => Topic started by: Tom4S on January 19, 2021, 03:55:22 pm

Title: <Accepted as trainee>My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 19, 2021, 03:55:22 pm
Real Name: Not comfortable to say.

Nickname: Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg

Your Previous nicks: same as above

D.O.B/Age: 24

Location/Country: Pakistan

GMT/TimeZone: +5:00 GMT

Servers you usually play on: LW, EAD, MKCTF, DW Argo

Are you currently banned in any of the official servers?: nope

VC-MP History: since 2009, i've been in multiple clans throughout my vc-mp career.

Why do you want to Join MK ?: MK was one of the first official clan where i applied and got accepted after FS died, its been more than 7 years since i left MK and i learned my lesson the hard way after what happen, the rest is history.

Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: I got accepted in VU in 2018, everything was going well but there were unfortunate circumstances in internal matters of clan where i lacked behind in some aspects, some members weren't happy and there were others stuff i won't disclose here ( related to internal policies of VU ).
i took a 1 year break and thought of having a fresh start from MK where i have my mates, I think i have the potential to work as a team again and make vc-mp a better place for newbies.

IRC or Any other contact info: Discord: Tom4S@7074

Interested In Playing Clan Wars: yes

Any Other Info You Would Like To Share: Hit me up in discord if you want to ask me anything, im open.

Post link to your previous Application/s at MK if any: the link from 2013 i suppose?
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tarkan on January 19, 2021, 10:40:56 pm
Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: I got accepted in VU in 2018, everything was going well but there were unfortunate circumstances in internal matters of clan where i lacked behind in some aspects, some members weren't happy and there were others stuff i won't disclose here ( related to internal policies of VU ).
i took a 1 year break and thought of having a fresh start from MK where i have my mates, I think i have the potential to work as a team again and make vc-mp a better place for newbies.


For a fresh start, explain what happened during your time in VU. You had dozens of applications there, eventually you got accepted and finished your story by being kicked. Give a detailed explanation of what happened.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: ELK on January 20, 2021, 05:28:37 am
Hello,

Hope you are doing good man.
As you can tell with tarkan's reply, some of us are kind of unaware of the events happened in VU that had to do with your removal from the crew. It would help the case if you write something about it, obvio the things other than the clan's internal policies. I'm sure they wouldn't mind you open up on the reasons behind your suspension/ kick from the crew.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 20, 2021, 12:57:01 pm
I'm sure they wouldn't mind you open up on the reasons behind your suspension/ kick from the crew.

There were number of unfortunate events, that some of us know (internally). Some member(s) had beef with me due to personal reasons / history that i will not state here.
VW8 was a success, so i worked in VW9 portal but the staff was not cooperative, so i started doubting my self and withdrew my name from the event as i was not interested in playing due to miscommunication with staff, exams and other real life job responsibilities. I was tired of apologies and discussions i stopped wearing tag so before i could resign, the next day i was shot with the topic of being kicked.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Oreocake on January 22, 2021, 02:24:01 pm
Hey bro,
I hope you're doing good.
I'm gonna take some time stating my decision because you have a lot of ego, I mean everyone does but it's just right off the bat (no offense), I guess if you can work on that I might reconsider, expecting that you catch my drift ..

Neutral for now ..
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 22, 2021, 09:11:29 pm
Hey bro,
I hope you're doing good.
I'm gonna take some time stating my decision because you have a lot of ego, I mean everyone does but it's just right off the bat (no offense), I guess if you can work on that I might reconsider, expecting that you catch my drift ..

Neutral for now ..
I understand, thanks.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: TX Moskvish on January 23, 2021, 09:22:09 am
His age clearly shows that he must be mature enough but maybe unluckily I never saw such sign of maturity in this person I don't want him as a team. NO..
I have seen your toxic attitude at most of the times I'm judging you on that.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 23, 2021, 02:15:24 pm
His age clearly shows that he must be mature enough but maybe unluckily I never saw such sign of maturity in this person I don't want him as a team. NO..
I have seen your toxic attitude at most of the times I'm judging you on that.
I understand, thanks.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: AttackerX on January 24, 2021, 03:22:46 pm
Hey there dude.
I do recall you were in UF too but you didn't mention anything about UF in your whole application that either you left it or remain with it till the end.
i do recommend you to please keep your ego a bit side and tell something more about yourself in breif so that we can easily judge you.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 24, 2021, 05:19:45 pm
Hey there dude.
I do recall you were in UF too but you didn't mention anything about UF in your whole application that either you left it or remain with it till the end.
i do recommend you to please keep your ego a bit side and tell something more about yourself in brief so that we can easily judge you.
Thanks man, 10 years is a long time and that's why i was not much active in vc-mp as I'm now a job person and working in software/hardware engineering side.
I do play vc-mp sometimes on weekends, and last year was hectic thats why i took a long break and started off with fresh ideas and attitude.
I believe that I'll work as a team because I'm already engaged in teamwork ( in real life ). I learned a lot from this experience.

and yes i was in UF as co-leader with you.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: gta5 on January 24, 2021, 05:47:11 pm
MKt from me  ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: AttackerX on January 24, 2021, 06:36:48 pm
Hey there dude.
I do recall you were in UF too but you didn't mention anything about UF in your whole application that either you left it or remain with it till the end.
i do recommend you to please keep your ego a bit side and tell something more about yourself in brief so that we can easily judge you.
Thanks man, 10 years is a long time and that's why i was not much active in vc-mp as I'm now a job person and working in software/hardware engineering side.
I do play vc-mp sometimes on weekends, and last year was hectic thats why i took a long break and started off with fresh ideas and attitude.
I believe that I'll work as a team because I'm already engaged in teamwork ( in real life ). I learned a lot from this experience.

and yes i was in UF as co-leader with you.
I got you and good to heard so its a Traine from my side.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Spiller on January 25, 2021, 03:22:56 am
I've not seen any issues for all the time I've known you. I probably wasn't active in the period where all the attitude issues were to be witnessed.

But even if there were, I am convinced that you're not an egoist anymore, mature enough perhaps from all the time I've spent with you. So I'd go ahead and vote Trainee.

I'm not sure what happened in VU but I'm pretty sure there must have been some reasons as you had left the krew discord and had to be brought back in.

All the best.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 25, 2021, 02:36:14 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on January 25, 2021, 04:58:51 pm
Hello there, I hope you are fine. Yeah, I know it took me a while to post something on your application, though I visit the forum almost 3-4 times per day, because that something which I am gonna post is actually not only 'something', but it's more than just that. So yeah, starting off with the time when you used to be in VU a couple of months (or maybe 1-2 years) back, perhaps the time when I personally started witnessing you in this community as it was around the mid of the year 2018 when I personally became a part of VC:MP and its community, the very first impression you gave me of yours was that of you being a very egoistic, unnecessarily expressive, and a drama-encouraging personality, and your enthusiasm in a particular drama was seen to climb great heights if that particular drama used to had any particular community, or in short: PL Community, involved in it. So why the hell I brought PL (a community which has disregarded its affiliation as a gang with VC:MP and hence now exists as a multi-game, and a multi-platform community) on an application posted on a forum which belongs to a VC:MP Clan (MK)?? The answer is, just like a very few guys (including you) used to bring it outta nowhere either on some other Pakistani Player's clan joining application on your forum(s) OR in any other ongoing shit show where you and the exact same guys used to participate and get activity on your forum(s). Before I proceed any further, I would like to give a disclaimer that whatever I said above and whatever I will say next shall NOT AT ALL be due to an intention of either taunting you, insulting you in any way, or even showing any sort of hostility towards you, but it's rather due to my intention of clearing things up (especially my unresolved queries regarding you) because I respect you, and I am glad you showed your interest in our clan. Below are some visuals which lay a very strong emphasis on the 3 qualities I listed above that I observed in you.
(https://i.imgur.com/D64y3es.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/hY2MxkF.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/N8Yr7aL.png)

These posts of yours clearly show how much you either hated OR felt insecure of a community in which majority of the guys (including me) didn't even know you at the first place. And today, many of us PLs have found a home/family in the form of MK and if I talk about my particular self, joining MK has so far proven to be the best action/decision I made after joining PL (I joined PL way before than that, that time i was a completely new face in VC:MP) just because of the fact that here in MK, guys just don't rant in public of them being a family and stuff, they actually prove to be a family and make you feel that you are non other but actually a part of them and also they are always there for you no matter what shit goes down. Additionally and hence most importantly, in MK I personally feel and think of myself as more of an MK member than a PL member, why? Because MK and especially its management never made me(us) feel any different from them, never raised doubts and questions regarding our loyalty and never doubted our intentions or actions just because we are proud PL members as well. And I actually admire and appreciate the thoughts and actions of some of the MK management members just because they took a stand for us and gave out the necessary clarifications when, just like the scenarios you might have frequently seen, their need arose. Want to see a clear picture of what I am talking about? Here you go:
(https://i.imgur.com/UdC9yQa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sjuTq1w.png)

This is the type of mindset that everyone who wills to join a glorious family like MK is required to have, not only because it's way more professional, broad, and splendid, but also because it doesn't lays the foundation of any sort of unwanted insecurity in the heart of any individual either in the clan or out of the clan and promotes a feeling/gesture of unity and solidarity. I hope I cleared out everything in the best way possible. So are you willing to change yourself and your previous mindset for the sake of being a part of us and have an even brighter future in this community? Are you ready to clear out any hostility and doubts you have regarding any particular individual in our clan and even anyone else in this community and present a greater & better picture of yourself??



Moving on, as I mentioned regarding you being in VU above, I also witnessed your actions during your last days in VU and also the instant when you got demoted from rookie to trainee and lastly, your eventual dismissal from the clan. Considering the fact that VU clan is also a very reputed, respectable, and a huge network in VC:MP comprising of many different minded yet great individuals (some of them are the ones whom I actually refer to as my closest buddies or even brothers), it appears to me that what got you kicked from VU was mainly due to your own actions which you had starting doing lately, like not wearing the clan tag with your nick (which, in my opinion, is the clear picture of the fact that you no longer feel proud/comfortable for being in the clan and hence, it's one of the biggest shortcomings you can show as a clan member/representative) and behaving inappropriately with your clan members just because they didn't did certain things the way you wanted them to do. And also, after seeing the lack of seriousness and unwillingness to share a full version of the actual story of your dismissal from the clan which you demonstrated in your replies above when you were questioned about it by a few of my clan-mates adds to my suspicion that you might not be a worthy addition to our family after all. So is it really like this or you can prove me wrong? I will cast my vote after you give a convincing and an explanatory answer. Regards! :) :)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 25, 2021, 09:21:12 pm
tldr;
I understand, although your first and last paragraph has offended me very much, publicly insulting someone and then saying that "I respect you, this post does not mean to offend you" is not a fair way to inquire someone's personal opinions about something, I'm disappointed that you didn't reach me through discord, anyway moving on.

before vice war 8 i was messaged by PLs, there was a confusion and a personal reason that was recently cleared out by the PL members in discord and also in VU's private board. (one of my close friend was insulted in the discord and some members have a bad history in vc-mp career, i will not disclose who)

Whatever the PLs did, do and will do is not my concern anymore since i'm not the part of that "gaming community", I also know that PLs are not limited to VC-MP gaming only, they have vast majority of players in blacksquad, csgo and other online platform, which does not concern me. I've played with PLs in vice war 8, probably in blacksquad too. so whatever my opinions in 2018 about them were, they have changed since i had little talk with members. If they invite me to play with them in any game i have on my pc I'll gladly join them. I was in their discord server for a very long time since vice war 8 but i left many discord servers since incident, PL was one of them.

Thank for your time and for calling me egoistic, unnecessarily expressive, and a drama-encouraging personality.


Edit:
This topic is not about proving innocence or crime of PLs and no one is accusing PLs of being guilty of anything since nothing has been proven, this is a gaming community, accusations come and go, you're innocent until proven guilty.
 if you like we can have discussion on discord Tom4S@7074
Poke Devil_Jin for more info.

Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: ĐɐήƗรĤ on January 26, 2021, 05:47:23 am
Mkt 👍🏿
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on January 26, 2021, 07:14:40 am
tldr;
I understand, although your first and last paragraph has offended me very much, publicly insulting someone and then saying that "I respect you, this post does not mean to offend you" is not a fair way to inquire someone's personal opinions about something, I'm disappointed that you didn't reach me through discord, anyway moving on.

before vice war 8 i was messaged by PLs, there was a confusion and a personal reason that was recently cleared out by the PL members in discord and also in VU's private board. (one of my close friend was insulted in the discord and some members have a bad history in vc-mp career, i will not disclose who)
See that's your problem, the post was too long for you and hence you didn't even cared reading it and trying to understand what someone really is trying to say to you, ask from you, and clear out things with you. You may be a busy man, but that still just doesn't justify the point of reading only half/partial words of someone and comprehending them in your own way, hence changing the meaning of the entire post. Anyways, what was offensive in my post brother? Politely asking something and sharing an honest point of view publicly is called an offensive attitude? If that's really the case, then every other post/reply which you or others ever made on someone's application on any clan forum, in which you inquire regarding that particular applicant's past/VC:MP career etc, is also offensive/rude, if we go with your logic. What I actually did was share my honest opinion regarding you with you, and that too on your application, and why would I come to your pm lol, your application is public, not private, hence the clan members clear out things on one's application publicly, not privately. Plus I also said this more than one time that if you think I am wrong then you are more than welcome to prove me wrong, you are more than welcome to share your honest opinions, and facts which you think are more truer than mine or anyone else's. And if you were actually more wise than my expectations, you would have noticed that, by writing a post which unfortunately seemed offensive to you, I slightly gave you a taste of your own medicine, threw a similar situation to you to see how you react, and made you feel slightly what others or even I personally used to feel when you used to post/talk trash and then covering it up by saying "idk why these ppl are being offended, I just shared my opinion" etc...

Thank for your time and for calling me egoistic, unnecessarily expressive, and a drama-encouraging personality.


Edit:
This topic is not about proving innocence or crime of PLs and no one is accusing PLs of being guilty of anything since nothing has been proven, this is a gaming community, accusations come and go, you're innocent until proven guilty.
 if you like we can have discussion on discord Tom4S@7074
Poke Devil_Jin for more info.
Yeah I called you with such terms, so what lol, I did that for a reason and with proof. This is what we call Constructive Criticism my friend, not public insulting, I hope you understand. And no matter what you say, this still doesn't changes the fact that I still respect you, and hence I respect everyone who shows interest to be a part of a family where I also belong. I just formally raised some queries and doubts which I requested you to clear, and unfortunately I didn't quite get the response I was hoping for, honestly. And also, you didn't even gave a single bit of an explanation regarding this query of mine:

Moving on, as I mentioned regarding you being in VU above, I also witnessed your actions during your last days in VU and also the instant when you got demoted from rookie to trainee and lastly, your eventual dismissal from the clan. Considering the fact that VU clan is also a very reputed, respectable, and a huge network in VC:MP comprising of many different minded yet great individuals (some of them are the ones whom I actually refer to as my closest buddies or even brothers), it appears to me that what got you kicked from VU was mainly due to your own actions which you had starting doing lately, like not wearing the clan tag with your nick (which, in my opinion, is the clear picture of the fact that you no longer feel proud/comfortable for being in the clan and hence, it's one of the biggest shortcomings you can show as a clan member/representative) and behaving inappropriately with your clan members just because they didn't did certain things the way you wanted them to do. And also, after seeing the lack of seriousness and unwillingness to share a full version of the actual story of your dismissal from the clan which you demonstrated in your replies above when you were questioned about it by a few of my clan-mates adds to my suspicion that you might not be a worthy addition to our family after all. So is it really like this or you can prove me wrong?
However, I will still wait incase you decide to put your ego aside and honestly answer these queries and clear things out in the best possible manner. Having said that, I am going with Neutral for now. I might change my vote in case you give out the necessary explanation. Thanks and regards. :) :)



Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 26, 2021, 09:17:18 am
Brother, just poke me on discord. Find me on MK discord server.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on January 26, 2021, 09:37:03 am
Well, aight. I shall contact you soon. ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: RiDDlER on January 26, 2021, 10:14:34 am
MKt  ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Darkel on January 26, 2021, 10:30:04 am
A strong 'No'.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 26, 2021, 12:01:26 pm
Let me clear this my PL fellows, 2 years ago there was a incident in PL which caused the bases of my dislike against PL, it was a personal clash between members and me. but i had discussions with PL members before and after vice war 8. Since then my views has been changed on PL. As i stated above, i have no interest in defaming PL whatsoever, we came to a common ground and that matter was resolved a year ago.

I'm not liable to PL or any of its activities outside of its gaming community, so if you're basing your thoughts on that, just poke me on discord and we can have a little chat, also whatever my relations with PL are, they do not effect the relationship with any clan members.

A clan is a clan no matter what, there are multiple clans in a community and as you said, PL is a gaming community not a clan.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: ELK on January 26, 2021, 12:14:57 pm
I'm convinced.
Good luck with your application, Thomas.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: lOGAN. on January 26, 2021, 04:25:17 pm
A strong 'No'.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Ego on January 26, 2021, 06:53:09 pm
I think I Played with you in Vice war 8 and I didn't feel anything bad in your behaviour So Trainee From my Side
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 26, 2021, 07:40:11 pm
Thank you.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Aegon on January 26, 2021, 07:43:25 pm
I surely had a bad impression of you when I had first seen you around when I was new to vc-mp.

After all the time I have spent with you, in-game not too much but discord mostly I personally believe you have changed a lot.

I am positive. Good luck with the rest of the votes.

Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tarkan on January 26, 2021, 09:40:18 pm
No, simply because he doesn't care explaining himself regarding his past experience with VU.

I appreciate when applicants are direct and eager to explain themselves in their applications once they apply. Remember, it's you applying here and trying your luck, not us pulling you in the clan.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 26, 2021, 09:59:04 pm
No, simply because he doesn't care explaining himself regarding his past experience with VU.

I appreciate when applicants are direct and eager to explain themselves in their applications once they apply. Remember, it's you applying here and trying your luck, not us pulling you in the clan.

Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: I got accepted in VU in 2018, everything was going well but there were unfortunate circumstances in internal matters of clan where i lacked behind in some aspects, some members weren't happy and there were others stuff i won't disclose here ( related to internal policies of VU ).
i took a 1 year break and thought of having a fresh start from MK where i have my mates, I think i have the potential to work as a team again and make vc-mp a better place for newbies.
This is all i can say right now, because I'm not one of those who defame others for their own good ,whether they are to be blamed or not. its true that i was demoted but i wasn't the only one.

And I'm not trying my luck, if i decided to join MK i have my vision and explanation has been given, If you have questions, just message me on discord.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tarkan on January 26, 2021, 10:52:01 pm
No, simply because he doesn't care explaining himself regarding his past experience with VU.

I appreciate when applicants are direct and eager to explain themselves in their applications once they apply. Remember, it's you applying here and trying your luck, not us pulling you in the clan.

Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: I got accepted in VU in 2018, everything was going well but there were unfortunate circumstances in internal matters of clan where i lacked behind in some aspects, some members weren't happy and there were others stuff i won't disclose here ( related to internal policies of VU ).
i took a 1 year break and thought of having a fresh start from MK where i have my mates, I think i have the potential to work as a team again and make vc-mp a better place for newbies.
This is all i can say right now, because I'm not one of those who defame others for their own good ,whether they are to be blamed or not. its true that i was demoted but i wasn't the only one.

And I'm not trying my luck, if i decided to join MK i have my vision and explanation has been given, If you have questions, just message me on discord.

If you see it as defaming, ok. :)

As I said previously, it's applicants coming here and trying to get into the clan, not us pulling them in the clan. Our system for applications perfectly allows everyone to publicly express themselves regarding anything which gets brought up, as long as it doesn't break forum rules ofc.

My questions and concerns are stated here, I won't send any messages on Discord nor is there any need for that. What's missing is the answers, which are being kept hidden for some reason.


Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 27, 2021, 08:48:53 am
No, simply because he doesn't care explaining himself regarding his past experience with VU.

I appreciate when applicants are direct and eager to explain themselves in their applications once they apply. Remember, it's you applying here and trying your luck, not us pulling you in the clan.

Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: I got accepted in VU in 2018, everything was going well but there were unfortunate circumstances in internal matters of clan where i lacked behind in some aspects, some members weren't happy and there were others stuff i won't disclose here ( related to internal policies of VU ).
i took a 1 year break and thought of having a fresh start from MK where i have my mates, I think i have the potential to work as a team again and make vc-mp a better place for newbies.
This is all i can say right now, because I'm not one of those who defame others for their own good ,whether they are to be blamed or not. its true that i was demoted but i wasn't the only one.

And I'm not trying my luck, if i decided to join MK i have my vision and explanation has been given, If you have questions, just message me on discord.

If you see it as defaming, ok. :)

As I said previously, it's applicants coming here and trying to get into the clan, not us pulling them in the clan. Our system for applications perfectly allows everyone to publicly express themselves regarding anything which gets brought up, as long as it doesn't break forum rules ofc.

My questions and concerns are stated here, I won't send any messages on Discord nor is there any need for that. What's missing is the answers, which are being kept hidden for some reason.

I see you're eager to know, but I just simple cannot point the finger at some person which belonged to the family i once belonged to, I still have the reverence but I'll not turn back.
Pointing the finger to the member of the clan will in turn directly point the finger at the clan itself, since every member is a brick in the foundation of the clan.

what your question requires me is to do what is unethical in terms of the policies of the clan and individual, neither i have that kind of agenda nor i do have the proposition for it.

If you prefer, you can ask your questions here.

I'll glad to answer them, but in most suitable manner preferable as i do not want to defame or point finger at someone because people have different opinions about different subjects, all i can say that is there was a miscommunication and a bad history.

Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: DeViL_JiN on January 28, 2021, 05:21:40 am
First of all Hi
i was totally out of the scene until i've seen your application .
why you don't feel comfortable enough to say out your name ?
i usually tell people that every clan literally says this word on their forum "We are a family" but i bet they don't mean it, they don't even know the meaning of it.
We here at MK make it real and you already have seen live examples of it.

keeping everything aside, before I cast my vote I want to know more regarding your last days in VU, kindly give an explanation regarding whatever happened that got u kicked
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 28, 2021, 07:48:22 am
First of all Hi
i was totally out of the scene until i've seen your application .
why you don't feel comfortable enough to say out your name ?
i usually tell people that every clan literally says this word on their forum "We are a family" but i bet they don't mean it, they don't even know the meaning of it.
We here at MK make it real and you already have seen live examples of it.

keeping everything aside, before I cast my vote I want to know more regarding your last days in VU, kindly give an explanation regarding whatever happened that got u kicked

We had a discussion over internal matter of clan and didn't come to the common terms and mutual understanding i.e. miscommunication that involves the higher ranked members so that is why I cannot share that publicly. If i did, that will be a direct accusation on the clan member and and the clan itself.

I respect everyone there, they supported me and helped me evolve into a better teammate but there were some circumstances that were a bad luck between our clan mates.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Enzo on January 28, 2021, 02:06:57 pm
MKt
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on January 31, 2021, 12:10:34 pm
MKt
Thanks
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on February 07, 2021, 11:35:48 am
However, I will still wait incase you decide to put your ego aside and honestly answer these queries and clear things out in the best possible manner. Having said that, I am going with Neutral for now. I might change my vote in case you give out the necessary explanation. Thanks and regards. :) :)
Hello there, so yeah we both had a detailed and a quite comprehensive conversation regarding everything that both of us had in our minds. If I talk about my personal self, then I would say that yeah, I got to know you more due to that, got many things cleared out which I previously had in my mind due to which I wasn't having good opinions & thoughts regarding you. Now talking about you, I am quite glad to see that you also didn't hesitated to share uncleared things regarding everything revolving round us and also, you didn't hesitated in getting them cleared out, which is a good sign in a way that it actually helps people to bridge out the gaps between them. Whatever happened before and whatever you did before was maybe due to, as you yourself stated (if I am not wrong), your misunderstanding of certain things and also that certain people whom you referred to as your close ones, failed to understand you. That's ok as long as your intentions are clear and you no longer hold any negativity, hatred, and any sort of grudge regarding the ones who are around you OR who will be in the same clan/family like yours. Having said that, considering the fact that one of your main purpose for joining us is to get rid of all those old bad vibes & experiences you've had before, why not shall we head up for a fresh start together? ;) Changing my vote to MKt for you bro, I hope you try your best to show your utmost potential in here with us and have a better future in this community alongside us. And also, don't let us down man, especially those who are positive and are vouching for you. Good Luck! ;) ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on February 07, 2021, 03:28:12 pm
However, I will still wait incase you decide to put your ego aside and honestly answer these queries and clear things out in the best possible manner. Having said that, I am going with Neutral for now. I might change my vote in case you give out the necessary explanation. Thanks and regards. :) :)
Hello there, so yeah we both had a detailed and a quite comprehensive conversation regarding everything that both of us had in our minds. If I talk about my personal self, then I would say that yeah, I got to know you more due to that, got many things cleared out which I previously had in my mind due to which I wasn't having good opinions & thoughts regarding you. Now talking about you, I am quite glad to see that you also didn't hesitated to share uncleared things regarding everything revolving round us and also, you didn't hesitated in getting them cleared out, which is a good sign in a way that it actually helps people to bridge out the gaps between them. Whatever happened before and whatever you did before was maybe due to, as you yourself stated (if I am not wrong), your misunderstanding of certain things and also that certain people whom you referred to as your close ones, failed to understand you. That's ok as long as your intentions are clear and you no longer hold any negativity, hatred, and any sort of grudge regarding the ones who are around you OR who will be in the same clan/family like yours. Having said that, considering the fact that one of your main purpose for joining us is to get rid of all those old bad vibes & experiences you've had before, why not shall we head up for a fresh start together? ;) Changing my vote to MKt for you bro, I hope you try your best to show your utmost potential in here with us and have a better future in this community alongside us. And also, don't let us down man, especially those who are positive and are vouching for you. Good Luck! ;) ;)

Thank you for clearing things out and understanding.
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@Tarkan, I failed to understand the question you asked so that is why I tried to contact you on discord but you show no interest in clearing the misconceptions about my application and kept pointing to the your post.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: DeViL_JiN on February 08, 2021, 04:35:11 am
MKt for you bro, I hope you try your best to show your utmost potential in here with us and have a better future in this community alongside us. And also, don't let us down man, especially those who are positive and are vouching for you. Good Luck! ;) ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Xobert on February 09, 2021, 10:59:53 am
I'll go with Majority.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on February 13, 2021, 05:53:28 am
thank you so much.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Combot on February 26, 2021, 07:39:39 am
I'll go with Majority.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on March 03, 2021, 09:20:33 pm
Thanks for votes.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Halchter on March 05, 2021, 01:24:06 pm
Most votes seem to be positive counted based on our policies but with that said there were a few against you.

I personally dug into it a bit more since you refused telling us what exactly led to your demotion/kick/departure in VU(unless I missed it somewhere) and I was told that you had many issues with the clan members which were arisen by your ego.

Before accepting you, are you willing to leave it aside? Also if your promotion takes long are you going to ask to be promoted?
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on March 08, 2021, 05:08:37 pm
Most votes seem to be positive counted based on our policies but with that said there were a few against you.

I personally dug into it a bit more since you refused telling us what exactly led to your demotion/kick/departure in VU(unless I missed it somewhere) and I was told that you had many issues with the clan members which were arisen by your ego.

Before accepting you, are you willing to leave it aside? Also if your promotion takes long are you going to ask to be promoted?

agreed without a second thought.

I hope that we will be able to accomplish our goals along side with my clanmates as a join family members.


Personally, i feel that this is the right place to begin with and achieve wonders for this community.


Thank you.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Halchter on March 15, 2021, 12:36:00 pm
Accepted as T
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Aegon on March 15, 2021, 12:43:44 pm
Welcome aboard man, good to have you here  ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Oreocake on March 15, 2021, 01:02:23 pm
Congrats! ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: DarkSlayer on March 15, 2021, 01:26:22 pm
Welcome to the family bro!!  8)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on March 15, 2021, 02:29:04 pm
Welcome to the family bro!!  8)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: DarKGh0sT. on March 15, 2021, 09:10:25 pm
congratss bro.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: AttackerX on March 15, 2021, 09:21:13 pm
Congrats broo
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: gito baloch on March 16, 2021, 03:35:30 am
congrajulashunz bro  8)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on March 16, 2021, 09:28:55 am
thanks guys. <3




 :P
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Darkel on March 16, 2021, 02:18:54 pm
Welcome to the family bro!!  8)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: lOGAN. on March 16, 2021, 08:36:03 pm
Congratulations 🎊🎊
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: ĐɐήƗรĤ on March 17, 2021, 04:34:34 am
Congo ;)
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: ELK on March 17, 2021, 08:04:23 am
Good to have you in my friend
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on March 17, 2021, 04:49:20 pm
Thank you, my friends.
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Hazard on March 17, 2021, 07:06:05 pm
Congratulations, Thomas!
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: FiBrE on March 18, 2021, 12:59:38 pm
Finally thomas is here :D
Title: Re: My Application Thomas, Tom4S, HeisenBerg
Post by: Tom4S on April 02, 2021, 07:20:00 pm
<3