.-=Clan Miami Killers=-.

Clan => Applications => Denied Applications => Topic started by: FullFilled^ on September 25, 2020, 05:54:22 pm

Title: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: FullFilled^ on September 25, 2020, 05:54:22 pm
Real Name: Qadeer Ali

Nickname: Full[F]illed^

Your Previous nicks: hervey, QadeeR_Ali

D.O.B/Age: 25

Location/Country: Pakistan

GMT/TimeZone: (GMT+5)

Servers you usually play on: LW,EC,CTF,EAD,VCCnR

Are you currently banned in any of the official servers?: No

VC-MP History: basically i start playing vcmp in 2012 from Zubi Cafe the server we mostly used to was VCCnR HellBoy for 2years then i enter in Dm in different server and i didn't left vcmp in the mid iam regular player till today.
firstly i join ZA of Naveed which was run for one an half year, then i join CO for 6month run by Dark_Ghost and in the last i join UF of Jaw from where i learnt lot of things related to vcmp.

Why do you want to Join MK ?: well tobe honnest iam inspire by MK since a long and i may do my application a long before but there were some resistance which took place and one major among them was that i was not much communicated to most of MK players but with the passage of time i made lot of friends from this community and sometime we do chit chat at social site to remain in more contact and i really appreciate the management selection as they are leading the most officials players of vcmp which are giving their hard time to raise the name high of this great community with there full spirits, so i want an opportunity to participate hands to hands to get the things easily done.

Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: ZA = Close
CO = Close
UF = left, actually its has been past years from my departure from UF so i do not remind the exact reason behind my resign from UF but as i do recall i left it because of members quantity as it was going to be decrease as well as my area friends left to play with identification of Unique Force and as far as there was some management issue they were not co-operating us in any sort of officials problems then i better though to ahead myself without of clan rest of my vcmp journey but in actual fact its hard to carry on my journey alonly.

IRC or Any other contact info: Only discord

Interested In Playing Clan Wars: yes i will play with my full intention.

Any Other Info You Would Like To Share: yes, to be loyal and real i want to stat that i own a cafe with 14 customer PC and one separate for my personal use which is only source for me to ultimate my hunger and to keep my background secure.
i operate my discord & forum account on my personal Mobile.

Post link to your previous Application/s at MK if any: https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/denied-applications/my-application-fullfilled/
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: AttackerX on September 25, 2020, 07:42:33 pm
Hello Fullfilled Thanks For Showing Your Interest Towards Our Clan Please Keep Some Patience while we dicuss your application
MKs From my side know him since starting.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: ĐɐήƗรĤ on September 25, 2020, 08:48:26 pm
MKs from my side good luck
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: UsmanShiekh on September 25, 2020, 11:57:23 pm
Hey, You know what? I want to give you a chance to prove yourself so you deserve a chance make sure you don't mess it up stick to the right things and yeah its MKt from my side and you're doing one good thing already expanding the vcmp community and bringing new kids here telling them play this it's good. xD

Wishing you good luck, anyways.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Aegon on September 26, 2020, 12:05:04 am
Neutral for now.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on September 26, 2020, 06:46:30 am
Cafe players have always been suspicious and untrustworthy for me since I came in this community, considering the fact regarding them being involved in a bloat load of shit related to leakage of private boards and internal clan stuff, as well as impersonating and misusing someone else’s identity. Plus since we have had a voice conversation with you many times, the noise coming from your background especially the chats and gossips going on near you doesn’t at all makes me feel that you have some sort of privacy in your cafe, and that your pc is not used by anyone else. In vcmp, and in fact any other community-based online game, the terms “Cafe” and “Privacy” never seem to go side by side with each other, especially when you have friends in your cafe who are in different clans in this community, thus putting each and every other clan’s privacy at stake. And yes, I would never tolerate that even a single letter or a word from our clan’s private boards gets leaked, be it intentionally or accidentally. And that is why, for this time, my vote is a NO regarding you. Good luck...
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Ego on September 26, 2020, 07:53:56 am
Cafe players have always been suspicious and untrustworthy for me since I came in this community, considering the fact regarding them being involved in a bloat load of shit related to leakage of private boards and internal clan stuff, as well as impersonating and misusing someone else’s identity. Plus since we have had a voice conversation with you many times, the noise coming from your background especially the chats and gossips going on near you doesn’t at all makes me feel that you have some sort of privacy in your cafe, and that your pc is not used by anyone else. In vcmp, and in fact any other community-based online game, the terms “Cafe” and “Privacy” never seem to go side by side with each other, especially when you have friends in your cafe who are in different clans in this community, thus putting each and every other clan’s privacy at stake. And yes, I would never tolerate that even a single letter or a word from our clan’s private boards gets leaked, be it intentionally or accidentally. And that is why, for this time, my vote is a NO regarding you. Good luck...
As ibee said we can't trust you
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: cool3 on September 26, 2020, 09:57:08 am
I know you well bro, but I care clan security as ibee said that we don't trust cafe players " do u know why?" because many users can use your account, can share information to others i mean our clan information and can make others login to ur account and use hacks.

Sorry bro we don't accept cafe  users...this is not mean that we prevent players to join us" Everyone is free to do application".

Bro listen I want you to be with us here, but No reason that you don't have pc i mean "your personal computer".
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Aegon on September 26, 2020, 11:40:37 am
I am really concerned with the privacy of the clan and because in the past few months there have been some leaks and some people who weren't supposed to see what happens in private channels got hold of those leaks and tried to start drama over it and i don't want any of that to happen again. So, I have issues trusting specially since you run a cafe.

Might change my vote in the future but for now it's a No.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: ĐɐήƗรĤ on September 26, 2020, 01:59:34 pm
Cafe players have always been suspicious and untrustworthy for me since I came in this community, considering the fact regarding them being involved in a bloat load of shit related to leakage of private boards and internal clan stuff, as well as impersonating and misusing someone else’s identity. Plus since we have had a voice conversation with you many times, the noise coming from your background especially the chats and gossips going on near you doesn’t at all makes me feel that you have some sort of privacy in your cafe, and that your pc is not used by anyone else. In vcmp, and in fact any other community-based online game, the terms “Cafe” and “Privacy” never seem to go side by side with each other, especially when you have friends in your cafe who are in different clans in this community, thus putting each and every other clan’s privacy at stake. And yes, I would never tolerate that even a single letter or a word from our clan’s private boards gets leaked, be it intentionally or accidentally. And that is why, for this time, my vote is a NO regarding you. Good luck...
Hello dear.
I wanted to clear out one thing first that is, I really dont care if he gets accepted or not.

I am putting myself into this because of the reason you guys  have mentioned above.

I was also a cafe player how can you guys say that we dont care about the clan privacies? Actually we do more than your expectations. Other than that, I have given more than my 5 years of career/life being together with you'all. Have I disappointed a single player of you, have I ever leaked something. You people actually dont understand the privacies we kept ourself only and not only me there are many other players who are now at good position in respected clans in this community. I have nothing more to say regarding this because everyone has its own choice about this issue so cheers...
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on September 26, 2020, 02:49:22 pm
I mean No offense for you and also for every possible cafe player out there, but you cannot hide the tons of shit that has went incredibly wrong in the past, and surprisingly enough, Cafe players were primarily involved in this. And what I am about to say next IS NOT because of any bad intention which you might think I have regarding you or your friends, I will say that with an absolute clear mindset, and that is: We all have seen the incidents in which guys of your cafe especially your friends were involved and what consequences they had for all of you (you were in MK that time). I and in fact every sensible vcmp player is aware of those incidents. And i also remember the incident happening during EAD League in which Miami Fusion (our MK clan's team) was disqualified and embarrassed in front of the general public due to the foul play done from the the side of the cafe where you and your friends play. Plus also a recent incident related to leakage from our clan’s private board happened when the RTV server’s drama arose, and all of us saw our clan mates’ private messages and logs on VU forum in that drama topic. There are many incidents like this which i myself and other guys witnessed, therefore we no longer consider cafe players to be trustworthy and legit, as far as clan’s integrity and privacy is concerned. I will repeat again, I literally mean NO OFFENSE for either you or any of your friends or even other cafe players, but lets not allow history to repeat itself. Plus yeah you are my clan mate and I admire all of your time you spent here. Peace... ;)
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: ĐɐήƗรĤ on September 26, 2020, 03:17:15 pm
Whatever the reason you took from old days and came up with is not gonna help everyone knows and I myself already have explained enough but if still you are missing something bro you should recheck the topic. We are talking about the privacies you are not believing us to secure ourself only. I do not have grudges against anybody, everyone does mistakes human is made to make mistakes and get some experience from it to make it possble.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Tobi on September 26, 2020, 05:14:32 pm
he mentioned in his application that he has his own pc for his own personal usage he also claims that he owns the cyber cafe so i dont think customers are gonna be using his computer ,besides he is 25 years old i expect a degree of maturity from him to not share clan privacy..i did meet him a couple of times before in LW but since i dont know him all too well i'll go with trainee tag
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: AttackerX on September 26, 2020, 05:30:50 pm
I was also a cafe players and I still rememb the day when i invite him at zubi cafe for first  time and we were good teamworker in UF while being a cafe player, did we leak any of privacy ofc we didnt. As danish said there are lot of other officials players who used to play from cafe and now they are at good state in their communities, and for ur kind information when so ever we vcmp player gather we dont convers about clan privacy because we keep care about clan privacy more then ur expectation..  by the way its strong MKs from my side.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: UsmanShiekh on September 26, 2020, 06:27:52 pm
He does owns his own pc in the "cafe" but there's a chance he can share the information with the other players which is not supposed to be share. Anyhow two of our clan members trust him and are willing to give him a chance maybe they personally have met him too I believe, all of the factors which Ibee said are still there and I agree to them as well.

What I would say is Danish and Attackerx, Can you take the responsibility of him not doing such actions which can result in embarrassment of our clan or simply cause problem? I mean if you are sure he's mature enough then its fine I guess. Plus I don't see any replies on the subjective from Fulfilled himself, we gotta see what he says about all this.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on September 26, 2020, 07:07:09 pm
Gentlemen, maybe you still aren't getting my point. I would request you to go through the claims I have made, that too with the prominent examples and references that i have quoted. There's no way you can say that the one who plays from a cafe cannot be a source of private info leakage as well as attempted impersonations. The reason I am continuously raising these points is that I personally come across them once in a while as I am an admin in various reputed servers of VC:MP. Therefore, I know what kind of offenses both leaking and identity thefts are. Plus I will highlight that again regarding the incidents that happened in the past involving cafe players, P.S: they still do happen even now. And I also will highlight, again, the results of leaking that we all witnessed and how much it was impactful for the matter of our clan's privacy and integrity, as well as the community's code of conduct and decorum as a whole. By no means this is an attempt to either degrade or target the respected applicant @Fullfilled but what I am saying is both as VC:MP servers' Staff member as well as an MK member. And my brother @UsmanShiekh, I personally believe that no one can give guarantees for anyone else because you do not know what's going on inside another person's mind and what he shall do next. As far as my vote is concerned, it will be unchanged until I  decide to change it depending on the circumstances or the new information I might get.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: FullFilled^ on September 26, 2020, 08:11:40 pm
@AttackerX Thank you i'll never disappoint you.

@Danish Thank Bhai means alot to me.

@Usman Haha literally i do not force anyone else to play vcmp there are lot of other professional games under my system which are quite delighted to play but todays kids have damn beast of playing vcmp as compare to rest others by the way Thanks for your Kind vote.
 
@Tobi Thanks i really appreciate it.

Cool3, Ibee, Ego, Aegon

i want to give you my explanation combinely as u all are raise with similar issue, actually i already mention the whole stuff about my cafe that i have one seperate Pc for my personal use i also have one more personal pc at my home but mostly i use it in urgent time like events in vcmp but mostly i play from cafe because i do open my cafe at morning 10am to night 9pm so i just get 3hours to give my family to fresh my mind, regarding ur privacy issue i want to clear you iam a mature player i know how to deal with the players why would i leak the privacy to someone what benefit will i get? for me the one who will leak the information related to clan is consider as traitor. Furthermore cafe is my profession because i spend my 4years at zubi cafe so i had lot of experience linked with games so for that i prefer to run my own cafe after completing my studies, moreover Mk is not the only clan iam trying to get in there are lot of other official clan in past i have been there i didn't leak even a single privacy even though i was a cafe player because iam aware of clan rules and regulation since my begning and iam not that much of cheap person, so i can assure you all i will never do anything which will result of the shameness. Beside it i operate my forum and discord on my cellphone.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Oreocake on September 27, 2020, 05:54:38 am
Here we are with the trust issues bhai.
You never know ..

NO
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: Tarkan on September 27, 2020, 08:20:39 pm
No to cafe player(s).
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: TX Moskvish on September 28, 2020, 10:16:10 am
i will go with the majority so far ive seen you playing but I barely know anything about you.
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: FullFilled^ on September 28, 2020, 01:07:40 pm
Thanks for your kind votes everybody  :) :)
Title: Re: My Application Full[F]illed^
Post by: 7/\zZ on September 28, 2020, 02:41:49 pm
moreover Mk is not the only clan iam trying to get in

Hello Fullfilled, this just got my attention.. and maybe this ( with the issue of you being a cafe player) lead members not to be willing to give you a positive vote.

Regarding our policies, to prevent any damage to the clan , even if you are a trustable guy without any controversies related with, we can't allow cafe players to jump in. I am sure you understand the hard task that is to maintain a Top Level clan for more than 10 year and still counting...

Anyway i have nothing that could be held against you, for me you are a nice and well manered guy.
 Hope the best for you in the future.

Denied!