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Clan => Applications => Accepted Applications => Topic started by: DeViL_JiN on May 23, 2020, 12:26:03 pm

Title: <Accepted as Scout>My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DeViL_JiN on May 23, 2020, 12:26:03 pm
Real Name: Sadaqat Ali

Nickname: Devil_Jin

Your Previous nicks: CrazyKilleR , PL2, Raja_Jee

D.O.B/Age: 22/06/1995 Age 24

Location/Country: Pakistan

GMT/TimeZone: GMT +5

Servers you usually play on: Extreme Addicts, Rob the Vehicle, MK Capture the Flag, LW

Are you currently banned in any of the official servers?: Nope

VC-MP History: I started off playing in late 2009 as a normal player. It was then until the early 2011 that i actually discovered various VC:MP Clans and forums. Well at the time when i was a newbie, i actually made various clans of my own and played by wearing  their respective tags. Those clans include RDX, PLK, PKG. Because I was a newbie that time, I wasn't actually aware of the fact that how the clan system works in VC:MP. Hence an important development of my clan history was my induction into the DU Clan as it was one of the top clans at that time, though today i am not part of it anymore.

Why do you want to Join MK ?: Well As we all know from a very long time that MK is one of the top known and the reputed clans of VC:MP. Speaking of my clan history, it primarily evolves around MK and DU as both of them were amongst the official and major clans of VC:MP. I personally know many MK members and they are also quite familiar with me as i have been in MK before too plus we interact daily in game. I want to join MK because I want to contribute my part in carrying its legacy further. Plus as I said before, I have many friends and mates in MK with whom it will be an honor for me to play and interact with, though there might be a few members with whom i might have had some bad experiences in the past so now i would like to clarify that i don't have any grudges left over due to past incidents. All MK members are honorable for me and it will be a matter of pride for me to be a part of this family again.

Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: Well if we talk about my own clans which i made when i was a newbie, those clans actually had no proper base and standings and hence they were closed with the passage of time. Now coming towards my primary clan background, I left MK before due to some misfortunes which many of u might be aware of, plus i wanted to open my own clan RDX. Now coming towards DU, I actually Left it due to some internal conflicts and misunderstandings that actually became unbearable for me, so leaving was the only option left for me.

IRC or Any other contact info: Discord @Devil_Jin#2332

Interested In Playing Clan Wars: Yes , Obviously!

Any Other Info You Would Like To Share: Well I feel like that some of you might actually doubt my loyalty regarding being a clan member, i would like to make it clear that at the time when i was a newbie and had little or no knowledge regarding how clans work in VC:MP, i made several clans but as i told above, they didn't had any real purpose so yep they were bound to be closed. And as far as my actual clan history is concerned, then after MK, DU was the clan which I became a part of and sticked to it for a very long time. In fact, I was one of the only active members of DU who were actually representing it in-game in today's era. Many respectable members including Cool3, Combot, Enzo who are now here were in DU before along with me and they also know what kind of a person I actually am when it comes to loyalty and maturity and how can i prove to be a worthy addition to this family. That's all i can say for now, and if you guys have any sort of questions, you are more than welcome to ask.

Post link to your previous Application/s at MK if any: https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/denied-applications/application-1749/
https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/denied-applications/i-wanna-join-the-mk-clan/
https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/approved-as-trainees/application-ltaccepted-as-traineegt/
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: AttackerX on May 23, 2020, 03:20:27 pm
Playing since 2009, any proof?
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DeViL_JiN on May 23, 2020, 04:20:19 pm
Playing since 2009, any proof?

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I started off playing in late 2009 as a normal player. It was then until the early 2011 that i actually discovered various VC:MP Clans and forums.

I've provided link of all previous applications, i have forum posts and and videos of 2011 which proofs my existence before that i just used to wander in Miami Dade Madness server no one used to play there except Hero aka zero who is now a days known as Dizzaster aka Doom_Killer , Puma2 , Jerald_Real , King_Arthur, these were the guys who used to play in that server, The applications which i provided as a reference in which it's pretty much clear during my first application at MK i was a kid. and was totally unaware of clans/forums it was more like a stepped into a whole new universe and it was my first multiplayer game too.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Tarkan on May 23, 2020, 04:20:37 pm
Hi, can you tell me what PL is exactly? I see that other clans decided to force their members to choose between the clan they're in and PL where in most cases mostly everyone picked PL resulting in them being kicked or leaving the clan (you chose PL over DU for example). Tell me more about this.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DeViL_JiN on May 23, 2020, 04:52:40 pm
Hi, can you tell me what PL is exactly? I see that other clans decided to force their members to choose between the clan they're in and PL where in most cases mostly everyone picked PL resulting in them being kicked or leaving the clan (you chose PL over DU for example). Tell me more about this.
Hello there Tarko
The question you asked is actually pretty nice and i wanted to answer this question from a very long time but was waiting for someone to actually step forward and ask .
Pakistani Legends is a gaming community, it gets considered as one of the biggest gaming communities of Pakistan. Like i would say if you search you might find gaming communities associated with your country name too, This is somewhat similar like that.
What went wrong is that the Founders of the community were player of VC-MP and some members too, so a few of us started giving our input to VC-MP in different aspect, but during this particular moment everyone dropped their inputs without even discussing or knowing what we actually are and what we do.
The reason why various clans are forcing their PL players to choose between the clan or PL is that they completely misunderstood what PL actually is and how it was meant to be operated

Answer to your last question
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(you chose PL over DU for example). Tell me more about this.
i'll simply answer it by saying, you and i had a little chat in the middle of RTV server publicly , after that chat do you still believe that i would had picked PL over DU?
And yeah i picked DU when i was given a choice.
DU's case was a little different what was written on announcement i totally disagree to that .
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Tarkan on May 23, 2020, 05:06:48 pm
Okay, thanks for clarifying what PL actually is. 


Answer to your last question
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(you chose PL over DU for example). Tell me more about this.
i'll simply answer it by saying, you and i had a little chat in the middle of RTV server publicly , after that chat do you still believe that i would had picked PL over DU?

Not sure, that's why I asked. Counter questioning isn't really an answer but no worries, because:

And yeah i picked DU when i was given a choice.
DU's case was a little different what was written on announcement i totally disagree to that .

Elaborate what is "little different" in that case. It clearly says you've chosen PL over DU and you're saying you disagree to that and that it was the other way around. You need to backup your words with evidence or an confirmation from the other side (DU.Alvin).



Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DeViL_JiN on May 23, 2020, 05:47:06 pm
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Elaborate what is "little different" in that case. It clearly says you've chosen PL over DU and you're saying you disagree to that and that it was the other way around. You need to backup your words with evidence or an confirmation from the other side (DU.Alvin).
For me it's pretty much hard to open up right now at this particular moment, because whatever happened in DU was done in private boards, although i can backup my words by this a fact, whenever someone breaks someones trust or leaves his buddies he gets somewhat like hatred or something, but after i left no one said anything since my clan mates were aware of the situation, to sum it up, only that particular guy had problem and whatever happened was his personal opinion and objections .(The announcement made on DU forum).
i'll seek permission from my ex clan mates of revealing where i was asked to make a choice, The scenario which happened in our private, if i get the confirmation i'll update

Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Oreocake on May 23, 2020, 06:16:01 pm
Upright you made a decision applying here, was twiddling my thumbs. ;)

I'm not actually cognizant of what happened in the past but you boy have gone through a lot. And I actually know as I have been in somewhat those situations alongside you and some were happened to me too (if I put myself in that position). I can't elaborate them because heck yeah, things which are buried should remain buried. Let's talk about now, shall we?

Surely gonna vote you, not because you're such a fantastic person, YOU ARE! The attitude towards everyone, always against toxicity, also punishing your community members for their hanky-panky haha, skill-wise, companionship, quick decision-making, leaving everything behind; that's what counts, hence everything is there.

And I know we can count on you for loyalty too, that's what my heart says and you really deserve this tbvh.

You'll be a good addition to the clan once again, don't disappoint us!
Good Luck! :)

MKs for a fresh start!
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Tarkan on May 23, 2020, 07:13:12 pm
You don't get it as it seems. In order to gain trust of members you're supposed to explain yourself especially after indirectly saying that you getting kicked from DU is because another reason not the one stated by one of the leaders.

If you thought of hiding it under the carpet and not willing to explain the whole situation (since you said it's not true) then maybe you shouldn't even applied because it was obvious that we'd ask such questions.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Enzo on May 23, 2020, 07:17:49 pm
MKs
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: FiBrE on May 23, 2020, 08:04:12 pm
MKt
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: TX Moskvish on May 23, 2020, 08:17:31 pm
apart from being gang mates and very good friends, i have seen that he does everything possible for the community he sticks with rather its the headache of others i have always seen him taking initiatives. we are groomed community so far and i think he will be an asset for us its a + deal.
Since he was a part of clan for quite a while in past i'd vote MKs.  :)
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: AttackerX on May 23, 2020, 08:39:17 pm
MKs
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Combot on May 23, 2020, 08:46:27 pm
I met this guy in 2010 in VC:MP when i was a newbie. He guided me regarding the game especially some tricks and tips and from that day we started hanging out in-game and eventually we became friends and started having voice sessions on skype. He is a supportive and a mature guy, knows how to interact and communicate with people especially newbies and tries his best to help where possible. He was always up for doing something positive for the community from day 1 and encouraged us to do the same. We both have spent several years together in DU and currently We are together in out community PL. And what i know about him further is that he really is committed to what ever he opts. He has a great experience as a player and he's also serving as a staff member in our CTF server. He's quite great in decision making and giving accurate judgements when an according situation arises. Last but not the least, the credit for the PL's  game streaming concept in this era of VC:MP actually goes to him as it's the part of his contribution to the VC:MP community.
Having said all this, I would strongly vote "SCOUT" for him
Best of Luck!
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: stubb34 on May 23, 2020, 10:30:03 pm
Hello Devil
I don't know much about you, but you seem like a nice guy and I trust my mates so
MKt
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Its.mlh96 on May 24, 2020, 02:28:26 am
I trust my mates MKt for a fresh start.... gl
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: classy on May 24, 2020, 06:03:02 am
MKt, good to see you here.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Hazard on May 24, 2020, 06:53:55 am
There's a question according to some doubts in this application.

What would you choose if you have two choices to make, either MK or PL?

I will caste my vote after the answers are given.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Ego on May 24, 2020, 08:51:04 am
MKs For you bro  ;)
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: ĐɐήƗรĤ on May 24, 2020, 12:20:51 pm
Mks for devil janii
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DeViL_JiN on May 24, 2020, 10:49:02 pm
You don't get it as it seems. In order to gain trust of members you're supposed to explain yourself especially after indirectly saying that you getting kicked from DU is because another reason not the one stated by one of the leaders.

If you thought of hiding it under the carpet and not willing to explain the whole situation (since you said it's not true) then maybe you shouldn't even applied because it was obvious that we'd ask such questions.
For the trust part, i have already gained trust of various members and it's not always necessary to explain and provide proof just so others trust you,sometimes you have to respect privacy. some guys just understand it without even saying or hearing a word.
And you are mistaken a bit, i wasn't kicked i left DU, maybe you did not read my application.
anyways i'll elaborate briefly regarding  my departure from DU and so on.
Like i said previously, i won't be attaching any proof material , the reason is pretty much simple to provide the proof i had to seek permission from my clan mates since everything happened in our Private Boards. although i'll give a general idea of what exactly happened.
Our leader took a break from VC-MP long ago, in fact he wanted to leave VC-MP i'm speaking of Alvin so we insisted him to not to leave and just go inactive since majority of DUs are inactive, so he went inactive there wasn't any sign of Alvin for 2 years or more i don't remember exactly, he just comes active during this VW creates a Topic in our private board in which he specifically targeted me , and he also Targeted me publicly at VU forum in the Shout box, Anyways i responded to the topic he made privately and gave legit answers at which the discussion was ended since there was nothing more left to target or debate on so the topic got closed and everything went smooth.
After 2 days i was given a choice Either Choose PL or DU, at this particular moment i responded back but i won't lie here due to on targeting me at VU publicly and in the previous i went a bit hard on him, why i went hard for him ?
Because he cannot differentiate between DU & PL and proposing me either i choose PL or DU.
DU is a clan of VC-MP community
Pakistani Legends Gaming community of Pakistani Gamers.

Clan is (anthropology) a group of people who descended from and follow a same/common leader and share similar principles, and facts or a belief. While community is a group sharing a common understanding and often the same language, manners, tradition and law see civilization.

Anyways moving ahead, so after i was given a choice i asked my clan mates in DU discord as i made the discord of DU clan and we usually do chat and voice sessions there just like MK, so i asked my clan mates as i'm given a choice what is your opinion on it , did Alvin spoke to you about the matter, and he did not spoke or discussed it with anyone, my ex clan mates never had any problem regarding PL since they also used to hang around at PL server and were familiar with everyone, and after this Orochi second clan leader replied to the topic and i told him , I choose DU. (Yeah obviously it's the answer i'm part of a clan of VCMP and i'll obviously go for that.)

Why i left the clan?
the only thing which forced me to leave was the fact that no democracy remained in the clan. Our leader was single handedly doing everything (in this regard) and not even caring to discuss with fellow respectable members Of course I didn't wanted to Leave at the first place although many members had already left it for being inactive anything like that. i do have quite a lot guys here who have served with me in DU and are aware of my loyalty dedication and efforts for the clan, but at the end i had to leave it.
Now let's head backward at the PL topic.
Like i previously described that i do accept that people here at VCMP community misunderstood us and i'm also aware that it's just because we some of our guys do wear *PL and did some form of contribution to the VCMP community, Our motives and intentions were always right it was just some guys misunderstanding, or listening to other guys without realizing or doing some effort on their own to understand what we actually are and just rely on the information provided by others while that same information could be wrong.

I don't know about others , but i'm a patriotic guy , i always like to wear the *PL or the (PaK) tag, it's pretty much normal for me, some of our guys followed and started wearing pl tag as they loved it or liked it  and some of them don't it's ones personal decision if he wants to wear or no. And since some of us plays VCMP we mutually decided to contribute to VCMP too since a few of us started VCMP as our first game, we will find here both types of people those who will appreciate the work and opposite too.
I hope i have answered pretty much everything i was asked regarding. Best Regards.
And Thanks for the votes!
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: AttackerX on May 25, 2020, 09:13:45 am
There's a question according to some doubts in this application.

What would you choose if you have two choices to make, either MK or PL?

I will caste my vote after the answers are given.
This..
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: 7/\zZ on May 25, 2020, 10:33:31 am
There's a question according to some doubts in this application.

What would you choose if you have two choices to make, either MK or PL?

I will caste my vote after the answers are given.
This..

I dont understand why you guys keep asking the same question over and over again. He already explained what PL stands for. Mk is one of the Top 2 clans in vcmp and players who belong with us will have to follow our rules and policy. I dont get what would be the scenario where the applicant would have to make a choice between those 2 different things.
Its pretty simple, if you dont follow Mk rules and policy then you cant be part of us, this is not only applied for applicants but for everyone.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Tarkan on May 25, 2020, 01:52:49 pm
Okay Devil jin, thanks for taking your time to clear everything out. That's a bad turn of events inside the clan I guess. Nevertheless, my vote is Scout for you.  :)
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: AttackerX on May 25, 2020, 03:19:29 pm
It will better for him to certify us what he actually want to choice between those two different states because he is one of the good experience player around the vcmp fortunatly if he'll get accept and put PL infront of MK tag then it will be consider as rule breaking and definitely he will be shown the way out in the end which can impact his reputation ahead so let us know right now before annoucing the result of his application by Leaders.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: FaF on May 25, 2020, 05:03:11 pm
It will better for him to certify us what he actually want to choice between those two different states because he is one of the good experience player around the vcmp fortunatly if he'll get accept and put PL infront of MK tag then it will be consider as rule breaking and definitely he will be shown the way out in the end which can impact his reputation ahead so let us know right now before annoucing the result of his application by Leaders.

You do know we already have players in clan who use PL tag with MK tag? and there have been 0 issues in relation to this.

PL is not a clan, it is a gaming community
MK is a clan

It is not like he is gonna use MK and VU/SS or any other clan tag together.

Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Knuckles on May 27, 2020, 01:59:20 pm
Seeing you after 9 years mate,I remember you very well, maybe you dont remmber me. So after 10 mints of searching i found this video from youtube I'm PLK.Shaeel in video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOXLlaHKgBQ( contains few glimpse of your chats and mine aswell)
We used to play together b4.You were part of MK before too, you deserve another chance MKt from my side
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DeViL_JiN on May 27, 2020, 04:09:56 pm
Seeing you after 9 years mate,I remember you very well, maybe you dont remmber me. So after 10 mints of searching i found this video from youtube I'm PLK.Shaeel in video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOXLlaHKgBQ( contains few glimpse of your chats and mine aswell)
We used to play together b4.You were part of MK before too, you deserve another chance MKt from my side
Shaeel i do remember you,  it just i didn't knew you changed your nick, back in the days you used nick  Speedo ? correct me if i'm wrong
You Nadeem , Me and MaDKiLLeR used to have duels in pure dm server those were really fun days!
I'm hoping to see you in game & thanks for the votes everyone
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Knuckles on May 27, 2020, 04:20:59 pm
We can talk on fb for sure, i have left playing vcmp maybe i decide someday to comeback again, nice to see u again man.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Hazard on May 27, 2020, 06:56:42 pm
Actually my reply was meant what if there is a condition when you have to drop any tag, either MK or PL but most of you didn't understand my question and some went over it and turned into hatred/negative comment.

I trust him, will go MKt.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: FaF on May 28, 2020, 06:11:56 am
Actually my reply was meant what if there is a condition when you have to drop any tag, either MK or PL but most of you didn't understand my question and some went over it and turned into hatred/negative comment.

I trust him, will go MKt.
Like what kind of condition? We have had PL members since some time in clan but havent yet come across any such condition or situation where they have to chose between the two so maybe you can present a situation.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: 7/\zZ on June 01, 2020, 10:56:09 pm
It seems almost everyone around are familiar with you and respect you as well.

Accepted as MKs

Welcome  back to the family !!
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Aegon on June 01, 2020, 11:01:22 pm
Congratulations my brother <3
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on June 01, 2020, 11:03:09 pm
OMG, many congratulations homeboy! <3
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Oreocake on June 01, 2020, 11:03:40 pm
Congratulations bro! <3
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Spartain on June 01, 2020, 11:04:33 pm
congo mate
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Chocolate on June 01, 2020, 11:06:28 pm
Congratulations Mate <3
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: VipeX on June 02, 2020, 04:36:17 am
Congratulations  >:(
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Combot on June 02, 2020, 05:20:40 am
Congratulations Brother! :-*
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: FiBrE on June 02, 2020, 06:20:22 am
Congratulation bro.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DarKGh0sT. on June 02, 2020, 06:25:06 am
Congratulations bhai.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: AttackerX on June 02, 2020, 11:29:10 am
Congrat's mate
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: lilamar on June 02, 2020, 03:41:42 pm
Congrats brother!
i hope you dont forget us and hop in to say hi in DU forum/discord sometimes :D
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Drakola on June 02, 2020, 04:10:28 pm
Congratulations bro


Bawa ji treat?
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Its.mlh96 on June 03, 2020, 05:02:03 am
Congratzz....
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: TX Moskvish on June 03, 2020, 08:22:06 am
enjoy your stay  :D
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: VCPR on June 03, 2020, 09:53:35 pm
Congratulations Debil, all the best. ;)
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Brian O Conner on June 04, 2020, 04:15:55 am
Congratulations devil
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: DeViL_JiN on June 04, 2020, 07:46:31 am
Thanks everyone
Congrats brother!
i hope you dont forget us and hop in to say hi in DU forum/discord sometimes :D
Jani like i said we are brothers even after vcmp.
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: Mr.Moon on June 05, 2020, 10:47:40 am
Good Luck Jani Hope You Don't Let it Go Down.
Congrts.[MKs]DeViL_Jin*PL
Title: Re: My Application Devil_Jin
Post by: J e a N on June 06, 2020, 05:50:31 pm
Congrats DeViL