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Clan => Applications => Denied Applications => Topic started by: Abdoooo on May 15, 2023, 11:22:55 am

Title: <Denied> My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 15, 2023, 11:22:55 am
Real Name: Abdalrahman

Nickname: Abdo*

Your Previous nicks: HARRON AbdO0o

D.O.B/Age: 24

Location/Country: Egypt

GMT/TimeZone: +3

Servers you usually play on: LW.EA.XE.VKs.A/D,EC

Are you currently banned in any of the official servers?: No.

VC-MP History: Since 2015. (CO.UST.KF.MA.CG.NK.NxS)

Why do you want to Join MK ?: i want to join MK because most of those in the clan are my friends from years ago, and this clan has members who have skill, and I respect clans like this I wish to be one of this clan and thanks.

Why did you Leave your previous clan/s: CO: I left this clan after a long time because I was going to join a new clan.
UST: Nobody is active.
KF: There were some problems between me and my late friend Stylish.
MA: I left it because the members didnt respect each other.
CG: I left this clan because most of those in the clan dont speak English except for a few of them.
NK: this clan their members didnt like each other and killed each other alot thats why I left this clan.
NxS: Closed.
IRC or Any other contact info: Discord: Abdo#4384

Interested In Playing Clan Wars: Yes

Any Other Info You Would Like To Share: Im a person who prefers loneliness some time for psychological comfort, I dont like hypocritical people, I love sports, and thank God, I quit smoking a month ago and continuously.

Post link to your previous Application/s at MK if any: https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/denied-applications/my-application-abdo*/
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Aegon on May 16, 2023, 04:48:46 am
I found you interacting with members before applying instead of just applying out of nowhere which I was glad to see. You seem chill enough in the game, didn't see you flaming anyone for no reason and I hope it says like this. Overall, you'd be a good addition to the clan.

MKt.
Good Luck!
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: SkaZ on May 16, 2023, 07:04:54 am
I don't know you, so I'll stay neutral
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 16, 2023, 08:09:16 am
I found you interacting with members before applying instead of just applying out of nowhere which I was glad to see. You seem chill enough in the game, didn't see you flaming anyone for no reason and I hope it says like this. Overall, you'd be a good addition to the clan.

MKt.
Good Luck!
ty for your vote bro and i will do my best
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 16, 2023, 08:10:07 am
I don't know you, so I'll stay neutral
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on May 16, 2023, 09:14:46 am
Hello there, good to see you showing interest in being a part of our family. I have got some positive remarks regarding you from my clan mates who interacted with you, and even I myself had a very positive interaction with you recently in game. I am positive for you but before I cast my vote, I’d like that a few things regarding your past clan history get cleared up so that we move forward towards a fresh start together.

1- Kindly shed some more light on your departure from CO clan, cuz the reason you gave is quite ambiguous at this point, and also that leaving your current clan just to join another one is a very strong shortcoming a player can demonstrate in terms of loyalty, so please explain your reason of departure a bit more, let’s see whether it’s logical or not.

2- You left UST because you say that nobody was/is active in that clan, so as far as activity is concerned, we MK guys are also partially and occasionally active in this game as of now, and it has been like this since almost the past year. Our activity is not consistent, sometimes a few of us will play consistently for like 3-4 days and sometimes we’ll just go inactive from the game for months, and even when I joined MK almost 3 years ago, the activity here was more or less similar to what it is now. And various players who joined MK in the past gave us big claims and hopes like “they’ll stay loyal to the clan, they’ll do this, they’ll do that” and now they’re no longer with us in this family. Can we expect any sort of similar act from you? Cuz I personally don’t want someone to be a part of us only to leave us in the end, as we are fully clear regarding everything to everyone here, be it regarding our rules, our values, or even our activity in game.
When you consider a place or a group as “your family”, then you stick to it in the current phase of time and as well as for the time to come, you don’t ever think of leaving it for any lame reason whatsoever, that’s what many of us here (especially I myself) believe.

3- You say that you don’t remember why you left NK but for us it isn’t as simple to believe as it may seem to you, kindly add more specifics on it too if possible.

I’ll cast my final vote after you give solid, logical, and promising explanations to the points I highlighted above. Good luck! :)


Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 16, 2023, 10:01:20 am
Hello there, good to see you showing interest in being a part of our family. I have got some positive remarks regarding you from my clan mates who interacted with you, and even I myself had a very positive interaction with you recently in game. I am positive for you but before I cast my vote, I’d like that a few things regarding your past clan history get cleared up so that we move forward towards a fresh start together.

1- Kindly shed some more light on your departure from CO clan, cuz the reason you gave is quite ambiguous at this point, and also that leaving your current clan just to join another one is a very strong shortcoming a player can demonstrate in terms of loyalty, so please explain your reason of departure a bit more, let’s see whether it’s logical or not.

2- You left UST because you say that nobody was/is active in that clan, so as far as activity is concerned, we MK guys are also partially and occasionally active in this game as of now, and it has been like this since almost the past year. Our activity is not consistent, sometimes a few of us will play consistently for like 3-4 days and sometimes we’ll just go inactive from the game for months, and even when I joined MK almost 3 years ago, the activity here was more or less similar to what it is now. And various players who joined MK in the past gave us big claims and hopes like “they’ll stay loyal to the clan, they’ll do this, they’ll do that” and now they’re no longer with us in this family. Can we expect any sort of similar act from you? Cuz I personally don’t want someone to be a part of us only to leave us in the end, as we are fully clear regarding everything to everyone here, be it regarding our rules, our values, or even our activity in game.
When you consider a place or a group as “your family”, then you stick to it in the current phase of time and as well as for the time to come, you don’t ever think of leaving it for any lame reason whatsoever, that’s what many of us here (especially I myself) believe.

3- You say that you don’t remember why you left NK but for us it isn’t as simple to believe as it may seem to you, kindly add more specifics on it too if possible.

I’ll cast my final vote after you give solid, logical, and promising explanations to the points I highlighted above. Good luck! :)
About CO The truth is that I left this clan because some members left it too, and someone invited me to join another clan, after I told my friends in the clan and they agreed to go to the other clan.



As for the activity I know everything that the clan is now inactive and why i applied here and i know that clan is now inactive?? to be honest with you this clan is the best clan for me but not all people are hypocrites Your fingers are not like some and trust me i will be in this clan forever cuz my best clan just trust me.




now i remember the reason I left the clan this clan their members didnt like each other and killed each other lot thats why I left this clan
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Atremo on May 16, 2023, 04:16:45 pm
He seems like a fine guy, chill enough
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 16, 2023, 04:22:16 pm
He seems like a fine guy, chill enough
ty you for your positive vote bro.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: SkaZ on May 16, 2023, 05:19:48 pm
About CO The truth is that I left this clan because some members left it too, and someone invited me to join another clan, after I told my friends in the clan and they agreed to go to the other clan
Is this even a reason?, will you leave MK if your friend says you to join some other clan?
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Spiller on May 16, 2023, 05:27:46 pm
Same questions as to the previous guy who wanted to join:

these are my questions that apply to anyone out there willing to join MK these days. Why would you:
  • Willingly deprave yourself from playing any team-based events?
  • Want to be in a clan with no active players? All we do these days is talk on discord.
  • Potentially make enemies with all sorts of retards who despise MK but will never know the reason why?

I don't want to disrespect your will to try. There have been enough people now and then who said they won't be bored from the inactivity, now most of them are gone. I'm only saying that we're retired, we play only to catch up with friends and fill up on our responsibilities.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 16, 2023, 05:39:31 pm
About CO The truth is that I left this clan because some members left it too, and someone invited me to join another clan, after I told my friends in the clan and they agreed to go to the other clan
Is this even a reason?, will you leave MK if your friend says you to join some other clan?
bro why didnt you read the whole thing? i said that I didnt leave this clan and will stay in it forever because it is the best clan for me.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 16, 2023, 05:43:05 pm
Same questions as to the previous guy who wanted to join:

these are my questions that apply to anyone out there willing to join MK these days. Why would you:
  • Willingly deprave yourself from playing any team-based events?
  • Want to be in a clan with no active players? All we do these days is talk on discord.
  • Potentially make enemies with all sorts of retards who despise MK but will never know the reason why?

I don't want to disrespect your will to try. There have been enough people now and then who said they won't be bored from the inactivity, now most of them are gone. I'm only saying that we're retired, we play only to catch up with friends and fill up on our responsibilities.
I know everything about the clan and I know that you are not very active these days I just want to be one of you and I promise you I will never leave this clan.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: SkaZ on May 16, 2023, 06:11:31 pm
About CO The truth is that I left this clan because some members left it too, and someone invited me to join another clan, after I told my friends in the clan and they agreed to go to the other clan
Is this even a reason?, will you leave MK if your friend says you to join some other clan?
bro why didnt you read the whole thing? i said that I didnt leave this clan and will stay in it forever because it is the best clan for me.
why should I believe you? While you left your previous clan (talking about CO) for such a lame reason
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 16, 2023, 06:23:10 pm
bro... you dont know me you should know that not all people are the same and i dont say MK my best clan for accept me Im not a hypocrite because this is the truth i will be here forever.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: SkaZ on May 17, 2023, 02:26:12 am
It's a NO from me, cuz I don't feel that you are ready atm and maybe you can make me change my vote to a positive one if you really wanna join us and stick to the same decision in future, Good luck with other votes!
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Rift_Walk3R on May 17, 2023, 08:32:10 am
Well, after reading all the justifications provided by you to every claim raised towards your past history and current intentions of joining us, I feel like you can be given a chance. I am voting MKt for you, let it be your fresh start here with us in our family, good luck! :)
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Waluta on May 17, 2023, 09:38:35 am
I've seen you in the game several times. I think you're fine, so I think you deserve a chance to get off to a good start. I vote for MKt. It's all from me. Good luck ;)
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 17, 2023, 11:51:28 am
Well, after reading all the justifications provided by you to every claim raised towards your past history and current intentions of joining us, I feel like you can be given a chance. I am voting MKt for you, let it be your fresh start here with us in our family, good luck! :)
ty brother i will not disappoint you.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 17, 2023, 11:53:21 am
I've seen you in the game several times. I think you're fine, so I think you deserve a chance to get off to a good start. I vote for MKt. It's all from me. Good luck ;)
my old friend Waluta ty for your positive vote :D
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: SkaZ on May 17, 2023, 06:00:07 pm
There's an option for modifying your reply, avoid multiple posting..
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: ELK on May 18, 2023, 08:46:27 am
One of the old champs!
I'd like to go with MKs. Join MK's Discord server (https://discord.gg/XKAXyDH)
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 11:31:13 am
One of the old champs!
I'd like to go with MKs. Join MK's Discord server (https://discord.gg/XKAXyDH)
One of my old best friends :) i already in MK discord brother and ty for your vote.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: DarkSlayer on May 18, 2023, 12:20:58 pm
I see ur bothering other MK members to vote for u in ur application... ur an old player and u should know that this doesn't work like that so thats why i advice u to STOP forcing other members in private message on discord to give u vote on this application and let them decide freely what they think of u adding in this family and i also told u to have patience but u didn't listen. So im gonna vote u No because of this reason.

Better Luck Next time!!!
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 01:02:06 pm
I see ur bothering other MK members to vote for u in ur application... ur an old player and u should know that this doesn't work like that so thats why i advice u to STOP forcing other members in private message on discord to give u vote on this application and let them decide freely what they think of u adding in this family and i also told u to have patience but u didn't listen. So im gonna vote u No because of this reason.

Better Luck Next time!!!
I didn't tell anyone in the clan to vote me its only you and another person I got to know and told him that I did apply in MK if you didnt know and he be happy in this news and he told me let me see this guy was Atrem0 and anyway he MKt and his vote didnt count I have added the members I know and those i dont know to be friends by being one of the clan but I just wanted to add my friends in the clan and who I don't know not for vote me cuz i want to be friend of new members for me in the clan and if i told so many members to vote me as you say ok then give guides screen shots lets see.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Ishizu on May 18, 2023, 02:53:24 pm
It's a no from me.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 03:04:00 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Ishizu on May 18, 2023, 03:41:56 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
No, because I feel you are pushing us to vote yes. Take it easy.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 03:53:19 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
No, because I feel you are pushing us to vote yes. Take it easy.
Well give me proof that I pushing them to vote me yes then.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Ishizu on May 18, 2023, 04:18:33 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
No, because I feel you are pushing us to vote yes. Take it easy.
Well give me proof that I pushing them to vote me yes then.
I said i feel that vibe from you, didnt say u go to everyone and say VOTE ME. I dont know you anyway, i just said what i feel. But good luck.  :)
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 04:29:29 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
No, because I feel you are pushing us to vote yes. Take it easy.
Well give me proof that I pushing them to vote me yes then.
I said i feel that vibe from you, didnt say u go to everyone and say VOTE ME. I dont know you anyway, i just said what i feel. But good luck.  :)
dude. you must know the rules of this clan, Im not in this clan and I know all the rules of this clan very well. When you make a negative vote to someone there must be evidence that you are saying no If there is no evidence then your vote is not counted there is no thing he is called i feel bad about you to say No. There must be guides... and thanks
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Spiller on May 18, 2023, 05:24:08 pm
When you make a negative vote to someone there must be evidence that you are saying no If there is no evidence then your vote is not counted there is no thing he is called i feel bad about you to say No. There must be guides... and thanks

I'd like to know where this is written. Please enlighten me.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Darkel on May 18, 2023, 05:32:54 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
No, because I feel you are pushing us to vote yes. Take it easy.
Well give me proof that I pushing them to vote me yes then.
I said i feel that vibe from you, didnt say u go to everyone and say VOTE ME. I dont know you anyway, i just said what i feel. But good luck.  :)
dude. you must know the rules of this clan, Im not in this clan and I know all the rules of this clan very well. When you make a negative vote to someone there must be evidence that you are saying no If there is no evidence then your vote is not counted there is no thing he is called i feel bad about you to say No. There must be guides... and thanks
I am not sure that is the correct manner you respond to clan members, where actually you have applied. On second thoughts, as per you, you didn't "PUSH" clan members to vote for you? Are you sure about this?
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Ishizu on May 18, 2023, 05:34:58 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
No, because I feel you are pushing us to vote yes. Take it easy.
Well give me proof that I pushing them to vote me yes then.
I said i feel that vibe from you, didnt say u go to everyone and say VOTE ME. I dont know you anyway, i just said what i feel. But good luck.  :)
dude. you must know the rules of this clan, Im not in this clan and I know all the rules of this clan very well. When you make a negative vote to someone there must be evidence that you are saying no If there is no evidence then your vote is not counted there is no thing he is called i feel bad about you to say No. There must be guides... and thanks
dude. what rules? give me a screenshoot of those rules please, thank you
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 05:41:47 pm
When you make a negative vote to someone there must be evidence that you are saying no If there is no evidence then your vote is not counted there is no thing he is called i feel bad about you to say No. There must be guides... and thanks

I'd like to know where this is written. Please enlighten me.
https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/applications/regarding-negative-voting-on-applications/ this is the rules
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 05:44:44 pm
It's a no from me.
no with out reason?
No, because I feel you are pushing us to vote yes. Take it easy.
Well give me proof that I pushing them to vote me yes then.
I said i feel that vibe from you, didnt say u go to everyone and say VOTE ME. I dont know you anyway, i just said what i feel. But good luck.  :)
dude. you must know the rules of this clan, Im not in this clan and I know all the rules of this clan very well. When you make a negative vote to someone there must be evidence that you are saying no If there is no evidence then your vote is not counted there is no thing he is called i feel bad about you to say No. There must be guides... and thanks
I am not sure that is the correct manner you respond to clan members, where actually you have applied. On second thoughts, as per you, you didn't "PUSH" clan members to vote for you? Are you sure about this?
The way I talk to the members? I actually talked about push thing that I told to dark why you dont reply to my app i dont expect this all will HAPPENED and another mkt member thats all
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: FaF on May 18, 2023, 05:49:41 pm
nice pyrimid, i am gonna break it


*vanishes*
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Atremo on May 18, 2023, 06:50:26 pm
actually, you tried to push me, and i really dont like your attitude at all after reading everything you wrote... of course it is not up to me, but in my opinion you are just digging deeper hole by teaching clan members rules, discussing with everyone, pretending to be friendly just to get in. I dont see a clan that would like a member like that.
I was in SAMP squads before, and for like 8-9 years there, i have never seen a guy that acts like you before getting in. Pretending to be a chill, good guy until you get a vote, adding everyone, and then if someone has a different opinion, bitching immediately. You certainly can not get far with that attitude.
 :-X
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 07:51:30 pm
nice pyrimid, i am gonna break it


*vanishes*
i dont understand what you talking about.
actually, you tried to push me, and i really dont like your attitude at all after reading everything you wrote... of course it is not up to me, but in my opinion you are just digging deeper hole by teaching clan members rules, discussing with everyone, pretending to be friendly just to get in. I dont see a clan that would like a member like that.
I was in SAMP squads before, and for like 8-9 years there, i have never seen a guy that acts like you before getting in. Pretending to be a chill, good guy until you get a vote, adding everyone, and then if someone has a different opinion, bitching immediately. You certainly can not get far with that attitude.
 :-X
thank you.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: PIIPEEGB. on May 18, 2023, 09:40:41 pm
Hello Man, MKt.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 18, 2023, 10:05:58 pm
Hello Man, MKt.
hello bro ty for positive vote  ;)
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Blurry on May 20, 2023, 08:11:00 am
Yes from my side. I know him from past. Can't recall anything negative
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 20, 2023, 09:39:28 am
Yes from my side. I know him from past. Can't recall anything negative
thank you my old friend and i will not disappoint you :)
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Martyrdom on May 20, 2023, 09:25:04 pm
Last I have seen you, there was a lot of drama involved in regards to your past attitude and other clan affairs and was overall a very conflictive dude making a huge deal of a lot of things which was rather unpleasant. Usually that should not really matter since it was a pretty long age ago but I am seeing hints of that attitude popping here and there in this application and discord lashing out against the members who voted negatively, pushing for positive votes and remnants of a toxic attitude without much provocation.

I am sorry for bringing up the past, but, this time it matters since compared to now you still have not changed much other than putting up a nice guy facade like Atremo mentioned that still does crack sometimes in terms of attitude even here.

No.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Spiller on May 21, 2023, 11:52:32 am
https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/applications/regarding-negative-voting-on-applications/ this is the rules

It says reason, not evidence or proof, which Ishizu did provide (internally as well - before you asked her for one - and yes, not all votes are cast on the application topic).

My vote is negative regardless because you need to do better than "I know everything about this clan and I will never leave this clan" right after mentioning half a dozen past clans. Enough people have said this is going to be their last clan, and not many of them are here, you need to earn my trust otherwise anything you say is pointless.

What further doesn't convince me about the "never leave" part is you're way too desperate from what I can see. Interacting with members - I'd appreciate much but asking them to check your application and discussing it on public servers doesn't float my boat.

Lastly, you must have been out of your mind to tell a clan member that you know the rules better than them. Doesn't give out a whole lot of positive attitude vibes, just like Marty said.



Now, it might be that I am unable to properly understand what you're trying to communicate due to language barriers and I get that because you do seem like a nice guy ingame. But I'm sorry my friend, if that is the case - you need to be able to communicate well in English.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 21, 2023, 01:22:56 pm
I just wanted to join this clan but it is clear that you guys dont trust me because many people let you down and Im not like them Im really bored of saying that not all people are the same and what I want now is to see the last votes thank you.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Martyrdom on May 21, 2023, 03:41:05 pm
I just wanted to join this clan but it is clear that you guys dont trust me because many people let you down and Im not like them Im really bored of saying that not all people are the same and what I want now is to see the last votes thank you.

https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=10338.msg132487#msg132487
https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=10338.msg132491#msg132491

Deja vu  :-X
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 21, 2023, 03:51:00 pm
I just wanted to join this clan but it is clear that you guys dont trust me because many people let you down and Im not like them Im really bored of saying that not all people are the same and what I want now is to see the last votes thank you.

https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=10338.msg132487#msg132487
https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=10338.msg132491#msg132491

Deja vu  :-X
can i have a question why do you post the past? I have changed from the past a lot I dont deny that I was reckless in the past but human changes and learn from mistakes, but lets forget the past and talk about the present Do you notice any bad behavior about me now? and thank you.
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Oreocake on May 22, 2023, 03:32:06 pm
I know you from NK days and you still displayed immaturity in the way you speak now as you did before, I'm firm we can't trust you.

NO!
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Abdoooo on May 22, 2023, 04:03:22 pm
DENIED MY APP NOW AND I DONT WANT TO BE ONE OF MK CLAN
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: FaF on May 22, 2023, 04:17:38 pm
DENIED MY APP NOW AND I DONT WANT TO BE ONE OF MK CLAN
Are you giving orders?
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: SkaZ on May 22, 2023, 04:52:14 pm
As expected  8)
Title: Re: My Application Abdo*
Post by: Spiller on May 22, 2023, 05:35:37 pm
You need to understand one simple thing, trust is earned.

Let me tell you once and for all, you don't know anything about this clan. And after this, you are not welcome here either. We don't throw words around, that's not how we do things. If you really wanted to be a part of this clan you would've accepted that you are not presently fit enough to join this clan, worked on the feedback we gave you and applied again after some time.

For the record, this application was denied due to overwhelming negative votes and not because the applicant wanted to close it.
Do not apply here again.
Title: Re: <Denied> My Application Abdo*
Post by: Halchter on May 23, 2023, 01:13:35 pm
lmao
Title: Re: <Denied> My Application Abdo*
Post by: Crack on May 25, 2023, 03:48:02 pm
lmao x2